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Flash Forward episode 5 review

Billy Grifter


I'm getting that make-it-up-as-we-go-along 24 feeling, like none of what is presented was sense-checked before the cameras rolled

Billy wonders when FlashForward will start to make sense, or if he’s misunderstood that it should.

Published on Oct 24, 2009


5. Gimme Some Truth

I'm tired of breaking down this show in detail, so I'm not going to bother this week, as it was typically all over the place.

Having not actually mentioned any of these characters or relationships previously, the FlashForward bandwagon turns up in Washington DC, and runs smack into a caricature of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in the form of Senator Clemente. We also get introduced to the President, played by smooth operator Peter Coyote, who it turns out is an old buddy of Stanford Wedeck.

This could be an interesting President, because he's allowed to play basketball without any security present, it seems.

But for me the twist of this story is that Senator Clemente really represents our cynicism in where this show is going, which when you dissect what's been presented so far, is pretty silly. She didn't make it that way, it's just when exposed to daylight it looks dumb, just as dumb as the guy who stands up and suggests the Chinese are behind it.

But this is DC, and it's all about backbiting, under the table deals and the wielding of federal power, or that's what we're told. What slightly shocked me about this was that DC is knee deep in special interests and commercial lobbyists, but they must have had a day off so that the big boys could play.

In the bigger scheme of things, I can't seriously believe that so soon after the blackout the Senate would be interested in asking Mark Benford questions on the stand about what he saw. No, they'd actually be having a major argument about Federal funding to repair the damage done, and how this might be paid for. This is one of the major issues that they've failed to even consider in FlashForward: the dollar cost of the blackout. Or that nobody would be able to get car insurance to drive unless another event was excluded from coverage. Commercial airlines wouldn't get coverage to fly, and the watersports industry would cease to exist. Strange how nobody talks about these rather obvious impacts?

Along with the DC guff, there are two other threads this week. There's one really thin one about Olivia Benford finding out that in Mark's vision he's drinking, and then getting an unsolicited text message to that effect just in case she wasn't paying attention. Of the main cast members I think Olivia is the weakest. She swings wildly from overconfidence to total lack of self-belief in a heartbeat, and I've yet to see what she and Mark have in common that would make them marry.

The other thread is included for those who didn't get all the unsubtle hints we've had so far that Janis Hawk is gay. Unless her current romantic interest becomes a relevant character, I'm not sure why we needed all this detail? The most laughable scene in this sequence was the one where she takes ‘Maya' to a restaurant, and then ends up kissing her on the lips. And when she does this, not one single person eating at the tables looks at either of them! Really? Most people would glance if it was a heterosexual couple, but they choose to ignore good-looking lesbians? Please!

This was only overshadowed for the silliness award by Mark accompanying Standford, Demitri and Vreede on a drinking session, when he's a reformed alcoholic.

But before the end they even manage to top that in about two minutes of chaos. Mark and the three other agents, who have been drinking, get the bellhop to bring their car to the front of the hotel. Does Mark ‘The Sober One' drive? No, that would be logical. He gets in the passenger side and Stanford takes the wheel. Then, in an instant, the car is being struck by a large shiny RV out of which Chinese assassins jump (I laughed here) and launch an RPG at them.

I estimate they have less than a second for all four of them to exit through just one side of the vehicle, yet they all do and then they're totally uninjured and can return fire. To say this is a WTF moment is putting it mildly. I just don't accept a vehicle can be blown up by a rocket propelled grenade with you alongside it (or in it), and there are no consequences!

Had the idiots in the RV not driven into them to start with, and instead just fired the RPG, they'd all be dead! Where did they hire these guys, Chinese Hitmen R Us?

The two sent to kill Agent Hawk are no less inept, with one making a really obvious approach while his accomplice is so far away I assume he'd been for donuts. The second guy manages to shoot her, but looks like he missed all the vital organs.

If you didn't get my underlying theme here, I'm getting bored how sloppy this production has become (or was it from the outset?). I'm getting that make-it-up-as-we-go-along 24 feeling, like none of what is presented was sense-checked before the cameras rolled.

As I write this it's been announced that showrunner Marc Guggenheim has departed the production, leaving co-creator David Goyer in this particular hot seat. Given how lumpy this pancake mix has been so far, I strongly advise Mr. Goyer gets his creative whisk moving rapidly or April 29th will be a future that this show will see only on DVD.

Check out our review of episode 4 here.

 

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Re: Flash Forward episode 5 review
Posted By stuxmusic 1 October 26, 2009 10:31:45 AM

Alcoholics can still go to bars, they don't repel like magnets. And it wouldn't be a good bloody show if it killed 4 of it's cast in the 5th episode, would it? Add that to the fact that you would stare at people kissing in public like a randy pervert makes you seem idiotic.

Re: Flash Forward episode 5 review
Posted By frankieboywonder 1 October 26, 2009 10:11:44 PM

I can't help being amused that you are falling into the trap posed by all silly films and TV shows - questioning the detail. You are prepared to believe that the entire population of the Earth black out for a couple of minutes and have a vision of the future - but nobody looking at 2 hot lesbos snogging in a restaurant is a step too far!!

Re: Flash Forward episode 5 review
Posted By frankieboywonder 1 October 26, 2009 10:13:46 PM

Also, I'm wondering how the writers are supposed to factor in a discussion about the rise in cost of insurance policies and still keep us on the edge of our seats???

Re: Flash Forward episode 5 review
Posted By frankieboywonder 1 October 26, 2009 10:17:29 PM

Just read those posts back and it sounds like I'm having a go at you - I'm not, I agree 100% that it's sloppy. And you didn't even mention the stupid soundtrack and calm smirking between buddies that went on while they were involved in an intense fire fight involving RPGs and sub machine guns. It's all just a bit too silly.

Re: Flash Forward episode 5 review
Posted By GoldbergV 1 October 26, 2009 11:12:06 PM

I used to think the same way about this show as the reviewer does, picking holes in it and constantly questioning why the characters are so mind-numbingly stupid. However, during this one I just watched it for what it was, and as dumb as the plot, characters and everything is, it is still entertaining. If they go this route in the future, and just make it all out dumb-fun then it COULD work. But the reviewer's point still stands, tonally its just all over the place.

Re: Flash Forward episode 5 review
Posted By cptjackharkness 1 October 27, 2009 10:48:26 AM

i am giving this show and stargate universe a few more episodes both to show me something on why i should keep watching but at this point flash forward has been a big let down

Re: Flash Forward episode 5 review
Posted By Forecaster 1 October 27, 2009 04:12:41 PM

I agree - kept as is, the show is 'jumping' and just not interesting. I am hoping hobbit Charlie will save the day just as he saved Desmond - or maybe not

Re: Flash Forward episode 5 review
Posted By Omniaural 1 October 28, 2009 09:43:46 AM

I agree that the show is ridiculous. But it's fun with it. Thank God I'm not a critic so I can just watch a show without feeling I have to maintain an air of 'quality' or 'taste' about what I watch. The prime reason for FlashForward's existence is entertainment. If you want disaster movies with a tad more realism check out sci-fi channel on wednesday nights!! This is pure hokum. I've accepted it and I'm getting on with enoying it. It'll never be LOST but that's not always been perfect either. As for Guggenheim leaving the show I'm not sure what he contributed to its downfall that Goyer thinks he can fix. Goyer is over-rated and does not have a good track record with TV shows. At least Eli Stone was enjoyable!

Re: Flash Forward episode 5 review
Posted By capt_1ntens0 1 October 28, 2009 10:33:15 AM

Give this show a break! For god's sake there's a lot worse happening out there and as one poster above points out , the very basis of the show is ridiculous to start with. Whilst not in the same league as Lost, its far from execrable- yes I don't like the main character, yes I am sure insurance prices would rise (seriously, are you a sci fi fan at all and if not, why the hell review this?!) but its not about minutiae, its not the Wire! Enjoy the show for what it is- hokum with guns, lesbians (hey I admit, I'd watch too if they looked like that), mysterious black towers in Somalia and some political 24-style skullduggery. I've not yet sensed any fun from you, Billy, like you've intended to just hate this show from the start- what honestly were you expecting? Note to Den of Geek- why bother to post a season's worth of negative reviews? Find a reviewer with a more balanced viewpoint for God's sake. Combined with the cynicism of Dollhouse and some of last season's Lost, I wonder whether the name of this site is appropriate any more, as it seems there's far too much hate for the very things geeks traditionally enjoy.

Re: Flash Forward episode 5 review
Posted By shruggy63 1 November 5, 2009 01:38:37 AM

I, begrudgingly, accept that I'm a bit of a geek. I'm pretty well up on all series of Star Trek... Flash Forward, like Lost, patronisingly assumes too much of it's viewers. Me being a geek doesn't make me a milch cow for networks or DVD sales. I need a sensible return for my interest!
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