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The next Spidey villain: Kraven the Hunter?

Ron Hogan


We've already decided that Sam Raimi's handling of Spider-Man villains isn't ideal. And we think we could pick a better line-up for Spidey 4. Ron's chosen Kraven. Uh oh...

Published on Jun 29, 2007

So Sam Raimi is talking Spider-Man 4, and his projected villain line-up is Electro, Vulture, and possibly the Sinister Six? Right. As I said in my review of Spider-Man 3, it’s time to get Raimi off this train and hand it over to someone else who’ll bring a fresh look and no prejudices against masked villains.

If we’ve learned anything from the first three Spider-films, it’s that anything more than one or two villains is entirely too much for the screenwriters of the franchise to handle in under three hours. If three villains didn’t work, how in the hell are you going to get six villains to work?! That’s even before you factor in Electro and Vulture, neither of whom is a great villain and both of whom look pretty damn stupid even by comic standards.

The Marvel Universe is full of great villains, any number of whom can be applied to the Spidey Universe. I wouldn’t complain about Black Cat, Mysterio, Carnage, Venom again, Kingpin (who should be redone properly), or any number of other villains, but if I was scripting Spider-Man 4, I know who I would write into the story. It’s simple and logical, the groundwork has already been laid, so they’ll never do it. But what the hell; the whole point of being a geek is talking about comic book villains!

Of all the villains who could fit Sam Raimi’s anti-mask agenda, the only one who hasn’t been ruined by Daredevil or who isn’t exceedingly lame is Kraven the Hunter. That’s right, the guy in the leopard-print pants and outback hat. The only thing he needs to work, and work well, is the right actor in the role and a costume change. Pick a beefy actor, make him a crazed nature show host and big game hunter, and give him the proper incentive to go hunting for Spider-Man.

What’s that incentive?

Dr. Curt Conners, AKA The Lizard. He’s played roles in Spidey 2 and 3, and if he’s not going to eventually become The Lizard, why would they have featured him? What else would bring a big-game hunter into New York City aside from a giant lizard whose head would look awesome on anyone’s mantle?

This sets up the kind of moral ambiguity that Raimi wants in his Spider-films. Spider-Man has to protect Lizard from Kraven while protecting New York from Lizard. Spidey has to stop his friend and mentor, work on finding a cure (possibly with the help of Darkman), and also keep himself from falling victim to Kraven’s various traps and schemes.

It’s perfect. It’s reasonable, you don’t have to introduce more than one new character, nobody wears a mask, it involves plenty of cool Lizard CGI (if you give him the power to control other reptiles), it gets Mary Jane out of the way for awhile (allowing us to bring in Black Cat for Spidey 5 to appease Sarah), and you can wrap it up in less than 3 hours. Of course, that means it won’t happen, but I can dream, right?

 

 

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Re: The next Spidey villain: Kraven the Hunter?
Posted By cjlines 1 June 29, 2007 10:31:06 AM

Danny Trejo would surely be THE perfect Kraven The Hunter? I don't see how they could possibly cast anyone else. If they bring the Black Cat in, it has to be LAURA HARRIS. :D

Re: The next Spidey villain: Kraven the Hunter?
Posted By Robmac 1 June 29, 2007 10:36:59 AM

Thats actually a great script - you can have J Jamerson running Crocodile In the Sewer stories and that type of thing. MAking the Lizard a Urban Myth would ground the film a little and make things a little darker ( no not Spawn dark - that would suck) and with the situation needing the black costume we would have some dark sewer style battles with Spiderman getting attacked by various reptiles, croc and the like and the Lizard doing things like trying to drown Spiderman etc... The idea for Kraven is good too - here is a character who is way out of his league when tackling super types ( his Ultimate version was great for that reason) so you would have to have his as some sort of sinister scalphunting badguy - maybe somebody like Pete Potheswaite who did a great turn in Jurassic Park and can do dark and evil well - Kraven needs to be moraless, cunning, clever and a little twisted or else he will end up being a Steve Erwin a like. Even adding in the Vulture or even at a push a mutated Spiderman into the mix would make for a great script Nice one Ron - you have got my creative ideas flowing

Re: The next Spidey villain: Kraven the Hunter?
Posted By sarahofthedead 1 June 29, 2007 11:00:41 AM

Pete Postlethwaite? Only if Kraven's only line in the movie is "DOLL!"

Re: The next Spidey villain: Kraven the Hunter?
Posted By cjlines 1 June 29, 2007 11:28:32 AM

The thought of Pete Postlethwaite with his top off, in leopard print trousers, is enough to put me off living.

Re: The next Spidey villain: Kraven the Hunter?
Posted By Robmac 1 June 29, 2007 12:18:29 PM

Yeah - Danny Trejo would be great... Sorry Pete in our ensembled geek casting...your FIRED!

Re: The next Spidey villain: Kraven the Hunter?
Posted By RonHogan 1 June 29, 2007 11:18:14 PM

OH MY GOD! Danny Trejo! Perfect casting! I was trying to find the right balance between experienced and tough and not too old, and he's it!

Re: The next Spidey villain: Kraven the Hunter?
Posted By RonHogan 1 June 29, 2007 11:21:39 PM

Craig, I could kiss you right now.
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